watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.
) why is this so important?
first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!
Long hair girl,
Ironically the one thing the congregation could actually stand to hear about....like if someone with a sexual criminal past is in their midst.....is the one thing that gets confidential status.
TTDTT's point is true though. You are right there are no guarantees, but there are also good guys out there that don't just blab. I wouldn't say they are a majority.
trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
PE,
Made me angry to read this. Your little girl is adorable. I have a little boy the same age. We should talk goats and camel dowry sometime to keep it all in the apostate family. Haha.
One thing I was unsure of. Is your ex-wife no longer going to take her to the meetings? If so.....this one experience was worth it....and a win. Your ex may not want to live an authentic life yet, but not taking your daughter (who is still very small, and despite your influence, still very capable of being indoctrinated), is a win.
that is....if I understood that right.
I honestly feel sorry for all the other kids there saying those things as well. Being raised to be little assholes isn't their fault. Its so ingrained from a young age......its very sad.
i want something different on my next pizza!.
I had pizza at California Pizza Kitchen the other day. I kind of wanted to punch myself for ordering the jamaican jerk sweet and spicy pizza. But you know what......it was delicious.
Maybe not really pizza.....but it was damn fine.
that pizza they cook for 90 seconds at crazy high heat.......that about my favorite type right now if its made right.
i wanted to get people's opinion on something.
how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.
there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.
I'm actually split on this. When someone approaches a cart with a "story" that isn't really true.....I bristle a bit. Of course that story IS true, just not of the person speaking.
The database could be a mess of it was just downloaded and posted. It would contain innocent people, rip open old wounds, and more. So I prefer that be declassified in a larger court case for the sake of transparency.
As far as recording JC's.....I have zero issue with it. this is because if you requested to record it, they would not meet with you. they would however carry out the judgement phase of the meeting without you present. Since there is no legal protection for you because of the first ammendment.....record away.
has anyone else heard this?
a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?
a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.
You have to shun non-disfellowshipped people now?
Says who? I don't recall that being a clear direction and i followed last years convention pretty tight.
i have noticed another popular pattern of behaviour amongst witnesses in recent years.. many, and i mean lots of ones with instagram accounts have closed the wife's account, and have started a "couple's" account instead.
also, for families.
the children's accounts have been closed, and the husband starts a "family account".. it is mainly on the husband's device, and seemingly under his control.
Ummmmm....actually I have seen this in plenty of non-JW's as well. A friend of mine has a joint facebook account due to his wife, saying she would prefer it.
So controlling?.....yeah i think so. because of being a JW? nah.
i want something different on my next pizza!.
Calebrese peppers (for napolitano style). Just seriously and ridiculously good.
is it a common practice for jw parents to kick their children out of the home, if the child doesn't want to be a jw.
(even though their not disfellowshipped they will still get kicked out for not going to meetings etc.??).
do other religions encourage kicking family members out this as well?
JW parents are encouraged to shun their disfellowshipped children. If they are minors living at home, they do not ask them to be kicked out, and allow normal conversation "not related to spiritual things".
So that is the policy, but some parents extreme or liberal. As an adult, I have family that does speak to me, and others that don't. I'm not disfellowshipped, s some have taken it upon themselves to shun me on their own.
Its important to note, if the child no longer lives at home, then they are required to shun them the way they would anyone else. "The spiritual relationship comes before the physical one", is what we would have said.
don't start fighting, darlings.
i am genuinely curious.
after all i was a jobo 50 years and thought the wbt$ was 100% correct.. i ask this because i see that, for example, christian denominations (or whatever), likely have differing interpretations of the same writing.
James....God here.
Nope. No hints. I realize my chosen path might be on the other side of the globe, or might be in the place where a naughty servant of mine just touched you funny.....but no hints. No backsies. No sneaky reveals.
Figure it out. Make sure you are right though because its death if yo don't (or hell, or bad reincarnation, or eternal nothingness......see......you thought you had me there didn't you.)
non jw here married to a jw.
i was told by two witnesses that if a woman jw were to marry a non jw that she would have no say whatsoever in what their children would believe or go to church if he was of a different religious belief and he enforced it.
from what i've read in different threads this is actually not the case.
The JWs teach the man is the head of the household. I don't think it gets much more specific in regard to what you are asking. You are saying a JW woman would have no say if she marries a non-JW man? Well not to state the obvious.....but wouldn't that be between them?
